The very serious consequences of suffering unclean men and women to come into the temple

We read:

D&C 97:15 And inasmuch as my people build a house unto me in the name of the Lord, and do not suffer any unclean thing to come into it, that it be not defiled, my glory shall rest upon it;

16 Ya, and my presence shall be there, for I will come into it, and all the pure in heart that shall come into it shall see God.

17 But if it be defiled I will not come into it, and my glory shall not be there; for I will not come into unholy temples.

This final warning is no small matter and we see this in the mortality of the Savior. The Savior called the temple his house, and his Father’s house. Nevertheless, he went to the wilderness and not to the temple for 40 days to be with God. The right and proper place for Elijah and Moses to appear, and for the Son of God to be transfigured, and for the Father to speak from heaven, was the temple. Indeed, in Joseph Smith’s day, the Kirtland temple was where the Savior appeared, and where Elias, Moses, and Elijah came. But in the Savior’s mortality the temple was defiled, and instead such things happened on a mountain.

The Lord still called the temple his house and regarded it as such during his mortality, for he twice cleansed it. Nevertheless, that could not change that it was defiled, and that those very peculiar events which should have by right taken place at the temple took place in the mountains and in the wilderness instead.



Humbling the word of God to science and acting pious about it brings damnation

I was just reading a part of Henry J Eyring’s book “Mormon Scientist”. This is not Elder Henry B Eyring of the quorum of the twelve I am talking about. The book is by Elder Henry B Eyring’s son, Henry J Eyring, and is written about his grandfather, who is Henry B Eyring’s father, and who is the “Mormon Scientist” the book is about.

The book states:

“The Church had taken no official position on either evolution or the age of the earth. Elder Smith, though, felt the necessity of claiming the strategic high ground relative not only to these challenges, but also to any others that science might present. He did this by advocating scriptural literalism. In other words, all scriptural accounts— including those of the creation— were to be read literally, regardless of contrary evidence or opinions. The advantage of this position was that it preempted threats not only from existing scientific theories such as evolution, but also from any future discoveries potentially inimical to faith. The scriptures would be taken as authoritative, come what may. The drawback of this position, of course, was that it required scientific findings contrary to scripture to be disregarded.”

The general point of the book is an old lie. That lie is that when science and scripture disagree then the right thing to do is to believe science, call the religious part a mystery, and then call what you are doing humility.

The author has the either the good sense or the personal rationalization necessary to avoid using those precise words. But that is his premise.

And it is a horrible lie.

It matters who you humble yourself to. It isn’t humility to cast aside the word of God in favor of science.

In the old testament days one king after another humbled himself before the gods of Baal or of other idols. They were humble, but humility to a false God brings damnation instead of salvation.

The teaching of that book is to humble yourself. But it is a horrible corruption of humility. It is teaching you to humble yourself towards science.

We CHOOSE who we humble ourselves toward. Israel constantly had to choose between humbling themselves toward foreign oppressors or God, as in the case of Jehosaphat. They had to choose between humbling themselves to false idols or to God.

It is no virtue to humble yourself and to humble the word of God to the ideas of men. That is not scriptural humility. The Preist of Elkanah had his faith, and humbled himself to his idol God, and the angel of the Lord smote him to death in the midst of his worship.

To say we are to humble ourselves MEANING we are to humble our scriptural notions to science is the road to damnation.

If you humble yourself toward science in place of the word of God, you will claim your eternal reward from science instead of that God whose word it was. You have subjected his word to the learning of men, and consequently it cannot yield the fruits of eternal life to you.

Once you have humbled the word of God to science then you have discarded faith. Consider this quote from the book:

“As for the Bible account of the creation we may say that the Lord gave it to Moses, or rather Moses obtained the history and traditions of his fathers, and from these pieced out what he considered necessary, and that account has been handed down from age to age, and we have got it, no matter whether it is correct or not”

No matter that the Lord Jehovah himself revealed the account Moses recorded, no matter that the Lord showed Moses every inhabitant of the earth, and showed Moses every particle of the earth, and spoke to Moses face to face, here we see God’s word completely humbled to science. Jehovah’s words are turned by a mortal man into “the history and traditions of [Moses] fathers handed down from age to age, and we have got it, no matter whether it is correct of not”.

The scriptural statement about such thinking is:

2 Nephi 9:28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for the set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, where, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.

29 But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsel of God.

Or, in case that scriptural truth was insufficient warning:

2 Nephi 9:42 And whoso knocketh to him will he open; and the wise, and the learned, and they that are rich, who are puffed up because of their learning, and their wisdom, and their riches – yea, they are they whom he despiseth; and save they shall cast these things away, and consider themselves fools before God, and come down in the depths of humility, he will not open unto them.






Secret combinations are trying to destroy the church from within

There is a secret combination that is seeking to destroy that church from within. They join themselves to the church, or stay with the church, specifically for the purpose of destroying the church from the inside. They are working in collusion together. This should be obvious to anyone who is paying attention. But just in case it needed to be said, there you go, I said it.


Joseph Smith on the twelve and the voice of the church in its stakes

From “Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith” we read:

“President Joseph Smith stated that the Twelve will have no right to go into Zion, or any of the stakes, and there undertake to regulate the affairs thereof, where there is a standing high council; but it is their duty to go abroad and regulate all matters relative to the different branches of the Church. When the Twelve are together, or a quorum of them, in any church, they will have authority to act independently, and make decisions, and those decisions will be valid. But where there is not a quorum, they will have to do business by the voice of the Church. No standing High Council has authority to go into the churches abroad, and regulate the matters thereof, for this belongs to the Twelve. No standing High Council will ever be established only in Zion, or one of her stakes. When the Twelve pass a decision, it is in the name of the Church, therefore it is valid.”

This is quite profound. It is so different to the way we are used to thinking that we must go over it in some detail to understand it.

First sentence:

“President Joseph Smith stated that the twelve will have no right to go into Zion, or any of the stakes, and there undertake to regulate the affairs thereof, where there is a standing high council”

Right away this is dramatically different than the way we are used to thinking. We are used to thinking that when an apostle visits a stake then that apostle has the right to do whatsoever he will, because he is an apostle. But he has no right to undertake to regulate the affairs of any stake which has a high counsel organized.  That means he can’t go in and start making callings or releases, or tell a stake how it needs to be doing things. He has no right to regulate their affairs. This is quite different than what we expect. The rest of this quotation will flesh out the full meaning significantly.

“…but it is their duty to go abroad and regulate all matters relative to the different branches of the church”.

So where there is no standing high council, a single member of the twelve can go and regulate whatever matters he sees fit.

Next we get a critical clarification.

“When the Twelve are together, or a quorum of them, in any church, they will have authority to act independently, and make decisions, and those decisions will be valid.”

The twelve can act independently if they have a sufficient numbers together to form a quorum, or if they are all together. I am not sure what the minimum number to form a quorum is. Offhand the number seven sticks in my head, but that is probably wrong.

But the important thing is the meaning of that word “independently”. They can act independently, meaning they can act without reference or without regard to anyone else. If sufficient numbers of the twelve are formed together that they form a quorum then they can simply make decisions without reference to anyone or anything else, and those decisions are valid as far as God is concerned. This is, incidentally, the principal significance of the notion of a quorum.

Next we get another crucial clarification.

“But where there is not a quorum, they will have to do business by the voice of the Church.”

Here we have a completely different notion put forth. One we have abandoned to our wo and dismay. If only we understood this, how much better off we might be. Here we have a completely different, and far more wonderful notion of what it means to do business by the voice of the church.

The ideas we have in our heads about what it means to do things by the voice of the church is as follows. We currently think that we have a big monarchy, and then a bunch of little monarchies underneath it. We think that there is someone in charge at the local level, and that when there is something to be done, or someone to be called, only that local leader HAS THE RIGHT to receive inspiration about what is to be done and who is to be called, etc… Thus when he puts forth someone for a calling, since we do not have the right to receive revelation on the matter, our options are to either sustain that person, or to prove that we are spiritual warts by not sustaining that person. After all, we don’t even have the right to receive revelation on the matter.

But no. Quite fascinatingly, it isn’t supposed to work that way at all. It is much closer to the constitution actually. It is closer to the Book of Mormon idea of the people taking the accountability for their sins upon their own heads by being acccountable for their own governance.

The point is that in the government of God, where there is a stake that is sufficiently developed to have a high council, the members themselves are supposed to be living rightly enough to know by the Holy Ghost what is right for themselves. The relationship between local leaders and the church is supposed to be much more like the constitution, in that leaders can propose a calling or a direction, but the members are supposed to actually represent the voice of the church. They are to ratify that action taken by the leader as being, in their own minds, consistent with the Holy Ghost as they perceive it. Or they are to NOT ratify it, if in their own minds it is not consistent with the Holy Ghost, EVEN IF ONE OF THE APOSTLES THEMSELVES is putting the matter before them to sustain. For that is the meaning of Joseph Smith’s words.

It can hardly be emphasized sufficiently how different these two pictures are. In the modern practice, the belief is that the members have no right for revelation about those matters necessary to direct their own ward, and that they are to accept the direction of their Bishop or Stake President as being God’s direction because that is the only person who even has the right to receive the Lord’s will on that matter.

But the correct version is much more like what is found in the constitution. The leaders can state what they believe their inspiration on a matter to be. But it must be ratified by the voice of the church. Note how different this is. It is a matter of revelation and direction coming to a blind congretation which they have no right to correct simply based on who is given a calling, as compared to a congretation, knowing the most about their own situation and NATURALLY HAVING THE RIGHT TO INSPIRATION ABOUT THOSE THINGS WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACT THEIR OWN WARD AND STAKE then have to ratify the actions of those leaders as being right by the Holy Ghost as they discern it. Or to not ratify those actions. If there is no real obligation on them to ratify it or to not as they feel like the spirit and their knowledge directs then it is not really being done by the voice of the church.

This latter is so much more obviously the way of God that the two have no comparison with each other. This is the sort of principles found in the constitution and in the Book of Mormon attempts at free government, but reworked to involve the ability of those people to receive light through the Holy Ghost. Here, the people of the church, who have been given the gift of the Holy Ghost all have the right to receive revelation on those things that most impact them. Here we see the proper balance between the local leader and the memberships.

The two are like a worn out dirty rag and a cloth cut from the robes of heaven in comparison. In one, the leader has the responsibility to find the voice of the Holy Ghost, and the members, living worthy of the Holy Ghost, have the responsibility to discern and to ratify, or to not ratify, his words as representing the will of God to them.

In the other, men are bound down to folly. The mere idea that members have no right to inspiration on those matter which they are supposed to sustain, or not sustain, is laughably wrong. It is an apostate tradition we should purge from among us. It has no part or place in the halls of Godly worship. No right for revelation on who will be called to preside over their own families? How can they sustain or reject something they have no right to revelation on?

The problem we face now is that the members are not generally living worthy of the Holy Ghost. The balance is thrown down because the members are not living of that light they should have to be saints.

Our modern notion of running the church by the voice of the people is a hollow farce, for we do not actually have members that believe they have the right not to sustain any position that is put before them. They think they have no right to revelation on them, and so they don’t vote against even the most ridiculously wrong choices for who to call or what to do. This is not running the church by the voice of the people. It is a farcical satire of running the church by the voice of the people. All say “aye” but you have no right to say “nay” unless you can prove the person to be wicked for you have no right to inspiration on the matter and you are a spiritual wart if you disagree.

How low the wickedness of our membership has brought us down. If we as a people were living as we ought to have the Holy Ghost, I think the proper balance would have been maintained. I assume it fell apart as the membership proved that they did not have the Holy Ghost. But the proper solution to that is to start kicking people out of the church for not living the standards God set until those who remain are those who will, not to abandon the proper relationship and correct meaning of the revelations.





Better and worse places than this one and how to find them

We can’t take a hint.

We know how hard it is to get a bit of inspiration from the Lord.

We know how the Lord expects us to treasure up his word. He wants us to know and obey those things which he has declared. He seems a bit indignant when it turns out that we don’t know part of what he has said, and we don’t obey it.

When a group of the Nephites, after feirce humbling, repent so much that the Lord is willing to teach them face to face, just as he taught Moses, still the Savior kneels among them and groans within himself and says that he is troubled because of the wickedness of the house of Israel. The Nephites who are present realize that he is praying for them.

We don’t realize that what God wants for us is to each become as Christ.

He wants us to be as obedient as Christ was.

He also wants to give us all the same joy that Christ himself recieved.

The Father wants us to have the same joy that he, himself, has.

And we cannot have the joy of the father until we are like the father. We cannot have the joy of the Son until we will obey as the Son did.

We know that this life has its ups and downs. Its difficulties, tragedies and its joys. We think of this life as being a sort of test with prizes handed out at the end.

Sure it is a test. But we should realize that under no condition will we ever have greater peace and joy than we have here unless we prove to live well enough to deserve something better.

By and large people are here because this world provides the level of joy, light, happiness, as well as distress, misery, suffering for such characters as ourselves. God wants us to have something better, and if we will be righteous, if we can learn to live up to a terrestial law, then we will get to be resurrected on this earth and live here when it is a terrestial place.

If we do, we will find ourselves living in a setting which is terrestrial. There the measure of joy, light, happiness, distress, misery, suffering will be accomodated to what we have learned to be worthy of at that point. The joy will be far, far greater than it is here. The pain and suffering limited to sorrowing for the sins of the world, as it was for the three Nephites who were translated.

And if we can learn to live like celestial beings, then we can enjoy this world in its sanctified and immortal state.

We neither have the faintest idea how much joy and delight he will give to those who will become as his son, nor do we have the faintest idea what our current state is before him.

Did the Savior die so that we could deserve better than this world without living worthy of better than this world? No sir! He atoned for precisely the reason he stated. That we might not suffer the same agony he suffered if we would repent.

But we have this notion that he instead suffered so that we can live worthy of this world and of no better, and yet obtain all the joys of celestial glory. Absolute nonsense!

We don’t understand the scripture that the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been and will be forever unless he yeilds to the enticings of the Holy Spirit and becometh a saint. The sort of people on this earth are mostly those who made God their enemy. They didn’t go so far to become son’s of perdition as the devil and his angels did. But they came to the same place as those devils for a reason. They are called enemies of God for a reason. They are born into a fallen world, and not into a world like this will become during Christ’s thousand year rein for a reason.

They came as enemies to God, and until they put off the natural man and become a saint in very truth through the atonement of Christ and become as a little child they will never enjoy a world better than the one they enjoy day to day here in this mortal probation.




The leaders are imperfect, but we are not to become their accusers, that is part of the whole arrangement

Incidentally. It is not lightly that I add this, because I think it is quite essential. I am known for stating scriptural truth quite bluntly, with little regard for what others think about it. So I am not just blithely copying what others say when I state that the twelve are leading the church precisely the way the Lord wants it led. I mean that. I am perfectly certain that the Lord is unhappy (deeply unhappy) with the members of the church, but that the Lord considers the twelve to be his special servants, and that he takes great delight in them, as a man considers the pleasant association of his own friends.

Do the twelve say everything we might expect? No. And I am not saying everything stated by an individual apostle is correct by any means, as Joseph Smith and D&C 107 both agree that it is as a quorum that they have their prime authority over the church. The idea that it is instead in their individual general conference sermons is simply a made up tradition that comes from nowhere. Judge each sermon from any source by whether it is spoken by the Holy Ghost, and whether the man who said it knew more after giving it than he did beforehand, for that is certainly what the Holy Ghost will do when a man speaks by its power.

The general arrangement the Lord has made is that the celestial teach the terrestrial, and are glorified by doing do, and that the terrestrial teach the telestial and are glorified by doing so. That means we are, necessarily taught by imperfect leaders, rather than by God himself, until we prove we will truly serve God at all hazards.

But part of that arrangement, where our leaders are imperfect, is that the Lord requires us not to become accusers of the brethren. That is why Joseph Smith said the high road to apostasy was to become one who is an accuser of the brethren, and he twice referred to people who choose to become accusers of the brethren as “sitting in Satan’s seat”. It is because the Holy Ghost will not stand by those who cross that line.

We live in a ridiculous age, which constructs mere disagreement as being contention or accusation. That is ridiculous. It is weird. But there really does exist a line between disagreement and becoming an accuser of the brethren. It is one thing to recognize mistakes, and another to collect, enumerate and publish them.

That line is important, and our politically correct age cannot possibly discern it properly. It will take time and searching for mortal fools like us to figure out.

Heavenly Father and Lucifer each lead you to where they are at

Heavenly Father enjoys as much intense joy and delight as any being can, for he is God. But contrast, Lucifer reigns in hell, where their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone. Thus Lucifer can only lead you the same destination he is in. If you follow him in you head toward his misery. If we follow the Father, we head toward his perfect joy and enjoyment. Lucifer cannot lead you to a better place than he is in. The Father would lead you to the place he is in.

So choose well.

Justice and law

You cannot enforce a law that is not based on right and wrong and call the result justice. Justice is a real thing. It is not arbitary. If the government declares laws of convenience and then enforces them, the punishment affixed to those laws is not justice, it is injustice. Punishment for breaking the law is largely no longer a matter of justice among us, for the vast host of modern laws are not based on right or wrong anymore. They are the government dictating the day to days lives and practices of the people, enumerating how they can operate their business, who they can hire with their own money to work in their own business, how they call sell that which is their own, what they can do with their own money on their own property. They are laws enumerating, in precise detail, all the ways in which the government can collect money from the people: money for buying something in sales tax, money for building something on their own land through a permit, money to park your car, money to get a license to marry from the government, money for actually having earned money.
Where is justice found in regulating people?
It simply doesn’t exist. That isn’t what government has the right to do. Government is not a father, who can dictate to his children the rules that govern their actions, for men were endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights and among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The only way in which justice enters the picture of government regulating the people, is that it would be just for those people to throw off that government and punish them for their tyranny.


The gift of prophesy

Paul writes that we should seek rather to prophesy. But how can you gain the gift of prophesy? Why the road is easy and is laid before every church member as a commandment. You search the scriptures and live to have the Holy Ghost. As you search the scriptures, there are times when you gain insight into them that came from the Holy Ghost. That is the seed which grows into the spirit of prophesy. As we continue in that, and grow more certain in that light, we can be quite certain of scriptural insights we obtain through the Holy Ghost. That same spirit that allows one to read a scripture and behold a plain truth with certainty can just as easily bring an idea to mind about what will come to pass and confirm its truthfulness to us. And just as you can know with certainty and recognize an insight into the scriptures as correct and true, so also you can know, and recognize that what occurred to you about things to come is also true. The spirit that can perceive the truth of the scriptures is really no different than the spirit that can perceive truth about the future. They are no different at all. If a man can perceive truth in the scriptures by the holy Ghost, then when some idea comes to his mind he can recognize it as true by the Holy Ghost. He knows it to be true, be it about the past, the present, or the future.
We learn to prophesy by learning to gain insight into the scriptures through diligently searching them and living worthy to have the Holy Ghost. It is a road all members are commanded to travel, for God will have us be a nation of prophets, or he can never build Zion among us.

Flattery and vanity

Somehow flattery has become a gospel virtue among us.

I don’t recall any incident where God spoke flattery to any man or woman. He always just spoke the plain truth. He expected that to be sufficient. It is only our vanity that wants any more than that.

Flattery is treated as a virtue among us partly because vanity has such a firm foothold in our hearts. Flattery and vanity are twin vices. Vanity likes to be flattered, and flattery can get its way with the vain.

We rationalize our flattery saying we are “accentuating the positive”. But we don’t sound like the Son of God. In what incident did he do otherwise than speaking the plain truth exactly as it was. No more, no less.

Somehow vanity has become an expected trait among our women. They are encouraged in it. And flattery that appeases that vanity has become expected of our men. I have been in multiple settings in which a speaker has addressed the women saying they are all beautiful. It is interesting to ask what the corresponding statement to our men would be. Beauty is a physical trait. But we don’t care about physical reality when our vanity is at stake.

There seems to be less vanity among our men, and I think they would laugh off whatever the corresponding flattery would have been. If you told a group of them they are all handsome, or all athletic, or all smart, I think some of them would have the sense to laugh at such flattery as the ridiculousness that it is.