The idea of salvation while still sinful is a bizarre misconception

The idea that when God says “no unclean thing can dwell in his presence” and that He “cannot look at sin with the least degree of allowance” means that sinful beings can live with him in Heaven by His declaring their ongoing sins in heaven to be null and void is such a strangely concocted rendering of these scriptures that it can only be compared in strangeness to the idea of the trinity.

Joseph Smith stated ‘…any person who is exalted to the highest mansion has to abide a celestial law, and the whole law too.’

Two obstacles stand in our way. The first is those sins we have already committed. Even if we stop doing them that is not enough. We must be cleansed of them. Through the atonement of Christ is is possible for us to be forgiven of our sins.

The other obstacle is our day to day ongoing sins. While not major sins, God’s criteria is that He “cannot look at sin with the least degree of allowance.” Fortunately, as Brigham Young pointed out, we enter the spirit world, and not our final kingdom of glory after death. We often take for granted this important aspect of the plan of salvation. While this life is the day of probation, it is not the day in which we must obtain perfection. We can continue to follow our chosen course after the end of our mortality, but before we arrive at the celestial kingdom. Thus eventually we can arrive in the celestial kingdom cleansed through Christ’s atonement for the many mistakes made along the way, but having finally fully submitted to His will to not save us in our sins, but from them.


Book excerpt – Satan’s great sleight of hand

It is made completely clear in the New Testament that the sinless Christ is tempted by Satan. Thus all are subject to temptation. It follows that the temptations you have are NOT who you fundamentally are. Satan has been very successful in convincing the current generation that if they experience homosexual temptations then they are a homosexual. That is ridiculous. What more could Satan ask for? Even Christ was tempted, so while the adversary had no power over the Savior, the adversary could still tempt him. If Christ could be tempted then why would the adversary fail to tempt us, especially if he has blinded us into believing that by simply experiencing a temptation, possibly repeatedly, we will take seriously the idea that the temptation is who we fundamentally are.
Regarding being “born gay” Boyd K Packer addressed the church on this stating:
“Some suppose that they were preset and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural.
Not so.
Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone?
Remember, He is our Father. “ (Elder Boyd K Packer – October 2012 General Conference – Cleansing the Inner Vessel)

While this pearl was addressed to the church, it was clearly picked up by the swine, who, as usual, did all they could to rend him for it. But that changes nothing. It a pearl nonetheless.

Joseph Smith Quote – Priesthood and revelation; Also not all commandments yet revealed to church

All are bound by the principles of virtue and happiness, but one great privilege of the Priesthood is to obtain revelations of the mind and will of God. It is also the privilege of the Melchizedek Priesthood, to reprove, rebuke, and admonish, as well as to receive revelation. If the Church knew all the commandments, one-half they would condemn through prejudice and ignorance.

Truth belongs to no man. God owns all truth already.

We don’t put quotes around words conveyed by the Holy Ghost. When a prophet speaks by the power of the Holy Ghost, he may state that he is inspired, or He may not. If the Holy Ghost doesn’t need to be cited when we learn from him, then neither do men from whom we learn gospel truth. The principle is that all truth belongs to God, so we don’t cite the Holy Ghost as a source, or need to cite who we learned a piece of eternal truth from because part of the gospel is that truth doesn’t belong to that man, but it belongs to God, who is the source of all truth. We tacitly recognize this in all gospel teaching so rather than the academic system of citing the discoverer of a fact, we have the gospel system, in which all truth already has a known owner, and that owner is God.