The gospel, pornography and God’s decrees about liars

We are required to cast off those things for which a man will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone in order to be baptized. Doing so does not make us prepared for the celestial kingdom, it makes us worthy to be baptized, enter the gate, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. We must press forward diligently from that point if we want eternal life.

Someone doing those things which the Lord says he will cast a man into the lake of fire and brimstone for must repent (which includes completely stopping) or be cast off. One will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone for immorality, including pornography. One is not an honorable man of the earth while committing adultery in his heart. Liars will also be thrust into hell. Therefore, liars must either repent or be cast out of the church.

We don’t like that. But that is the doctrine taught in the scriptures. If you are doing something for which you will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, then you must either repent or be cast out.

We don’t really like the list of who will go to hell. We are fine with some parts of it. We are not fine with the inclusion of “liars”. But it isn’t my list.

It is the sort of thing someone will want to make into a straw man. They will say that I wrote that anyone who tells a lie should be excommunicated. Well, that wasn’t what I wrote. I do not know what the cut off is for one to be counted as a liar by the scriptural measure. But God is the one who said it, and he knows, and if we go to him, he can tell us all about it.

But we need to find out about it from him, not from our own personal inclinations. Because our own inclinations would probably not send any liars to hell, and we are not in agreement with scripture on that point. And once we understand the matter, then we need to act as the Lord has commanded on it. Those who are liars by God’s measure need to repent, or to be cast out.

Because you can’t be a member of the church while actively doing those things for which God places men in a lake of fire and brimstone. That is the principle by which people are cast out, as laid out in D&C 63, for God threatens to cut off his church if such things are kept among them in that section.

We don’t like that, but if we would just stick to the scriptures we would find that there are a great many of our members who would be willing to repent and work righteousness.

We have our inclinations. But if we will seek for and follow God’s instead, we will find that he knows how to save his children far better than we do.


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John Robertson

I am nothing more than a regular member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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