The various records of Joseph Smith prophesying the constitution being saved by the Elders

The most commonly cited version of the prophesy that the constitution would “hang by a thread” was reported by Eliza M Snow. But it was reported by her in 1871 at a Pioneer day celebration in Ogden, Utah. That means it was many years since she had actually heard the prophesy when she reported it. I found an interesting Ensign note about the various forms of this prophesy that we have, and where each one came from.

I am interested in this topic because, as things stand, the Elders of Israel are by no means going to save the constitution in the sense we usually think of. They hardly stirred when gay marriage was illegally forced on Utah (as if any federal judge had the authority to redefine marriage any more than he has the authority change inalienable rights). Other states in similar circumstances responded more rightly than Utah did.

Reading over these, my first inclination is that the prophesy actually refers to saving the constitution and form of government (not the nation itself) as part of the building of Zion, which seems to be indicated in Parley P Pratt’s account. Given that many of our own members now sympathize in large measure with socialist and large government principles that distort the constitution, it may be that “saving the constitution” will principally be an issue of coming to understand it rightly ourselves, putting aside all the garbage we have grown up learning about its proper meaning and intention under the influence of learned lawyers who think only they understand it, as well as the scheming of men who have distorted it to abuse it. For we must understand it rightly ourselves if we are to use it to lay the foundation for building a Zion.

One of the two accounts of this prophesy made while the prophet was actually alive makes it conditional with words like “if the constitution be saved at all …”.

The other account made while Joseph Smith was actually alive was Parley P Pratt’s account. It sounds like it refers to saving the constitution and form of government to lay the foundation of building Zion, and not to saving the United States through means of politics or preaching in any sense. He refers to gathering the saints from around the earth to form a mighty army and to saving the constitution with reference to redeeming Zion.

The version we quote most frequently may much less like the original than other, as it was reported in Utah in 1871, where others were reported in 1841, and 1844.

I don’t know.

We do know that God will make “a full end of all nations” through the consumption he has decreed as D&C 87:6 declares. Thus the United States will come to a full and complete end.


Everything that follows is an extract from the June 1976 Ensign:

What do we know about the purported statement of Joseph Smith that the Constitution would hang by a thread and that the elders would save it?

[D. Michael Stewart, Brigham Young University, Department of History] The documents show that Joseph Smith did prophesy a number of times that the United States and the Constitution would be imperiled and that the elders would have a hand in saving them. The first known record of the prophecy dates to July 19, 1840, in Nauvoo, when the prophet spoke about the redemption of Zion. Using Doctrine & Covenants 101 as a text, he said, “Even this nation will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the Constitution is on the brink of ruin this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction.” (Joseph Smith Papers, LDS Church Historical Archives, Box 1, March 10, 1844.)

There are also other documents in Church History files that show that five different early Saints recorded some remarks by the Prophet Joseph Smith on this same prophecy, perhaps voiced by the Prophet a number of times in a number of ways after 1840. Parley P. Pratt wrote in 1841 that the prophet said, “The government is fallen and needs redeeming. It is guilty of Blood and cannot stand as it now is but will come so near desolation as to hang as it were by a single hair!!!!! Then the servants goes [sic] to the nations of the earth, and gathers the strength of the Lord’s house! A mighty army!!!!!! And this is the redemption of Zion when the saints shall have redeemed that government and reinstated it in all its purity and glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” (George A. Smith Papers, Church Archives, Box 7, Folder 5, January 21, 1841.)

James Burgess related that the Prophet, while addressing the Nauvoo Legion several miles east of Nauvoo in May 1843, said that “the time would come when the constitution and government would hang by a brittle thread and would be ready to fall into other hands but this people the latter-day saints will step forth and save it.” (James Burgess Journal, 1818–1904, Church Archives, vol. 1—found among loose sermons.)

Orson Hyde recalled that the Prophet predicted that “the time would come that the Constitution and the country would be in danger of an overthrow and said he, if the constitution be saved at all, it will be by the Elders of this Church. I believe this is about the language as nearly as I can recollect it.” (JD, 6:150.)

In a Pioneer Day celebration in Ogden in 1871, Eliza R. Snow said, “I heard the prophet say, ‘The time will come when the government of these United States will be so nearly overthrown through its corruption, that the Constitution will hang as it were by a single hair, and the Latter-day Saints—the Elders of Israel—will step forward to its rescue and save it.” (Journal History, MSF 143 #28, July 24, 1871.)

Jedediah M. Grant, during the dark days of threatened invasion of Utah by a federal army, referred to the Prophet’s utterance as he addressed a Mormon Battalion gathering in Salt Lake City, February 6, 1855.

What did the Prophet Joseph say? When the Constitution shall be tottering we shall be the people to save it from the hand of the foe.” (Deseret News Weekly, January 19, 1870.)

On various occasions, Joseph Smith referred to the Constitution, the country, and destiny of the nation; and there is clear evidence that he anticipated future peril. Furthermore, he pronounced the prophecy at various times and places. Perhaps he himself interchanged the simile “on the brink of ruin,” “hang by a brittle thread,” “hang by a single hair,” etc., to describe the anticipated crisis. It is also clear that the redeemers or rescuers of the Constitution were to be either the Saints generally or priesthood officers specifically.

Since no particular time was given for fulfilling this prophecy, members of the Church have often wondered about its timing. The prophecy clearly indicates a single, identifiable episode yet to come. However, it is helpful for us to constantly be on guard against threats to the central elements of the Constitution. It is not wise to sit by and think that the protection of the Constitution is the problem of someone else at some other time.

In support of this view of “constant vigilance,” it is most instructive to note that Church leaders have seen the Constitution imperiled a number of times. Brigham Young, reflecting on the prophecy of 1868, expressed: “It would not be many years before these words come to pass.” (JD, 12:204.) President John Taylor in 1884 declared: “It may be nearer … than some of us think.” (JD, 25:350.) President J. Reuben Clark, Jr., warned in 1942: “Whether it [the Constitution] shall live or die is now in the balance.” (Conference Report, October 1942, p. 58.)

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